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we have no sustainable deficit. you say on the order of 3% of gdp, we make tough choices to identify more than a trillion dollars in savings. two-thirds from spending reductions. where does the other third come from? as i understand it, it is from tax increases, is it not? >> i'm happy to answer all questions. >> just the last one. >> the net savings come from a lot of provisions but a lot of it comes from the provision that would pay for the alternative minimum tax. that would reduce -- >> a significant portion does come from tax increases. >> a third. >> you have a statement about federal-billion pay freeze. i find this to be terribly disingenuous. when barack obama took office to now, we have 145,000 additional federal workers. to suggest pay has been frozen is not an accurate statement. their increases and bonuses and others, we've dramatically increased the federal payroll. the budget being proposed, when you say pay freeze, does that mean expenditures on payroll will go up or stay the same? >> it means people
we have no sustainable deficit. you say on the order of 3% of gdp, we make tough choices to identify more than a trillion dollars in savings. two-thirds from spending reductions. where does the other third come from? as i understand it, it is from tax increases, is it not? >> i'm happy to answer all questions. >> just the last one. >> the net savings come from a lot of provisions but a lot of it comes from the provision that would pay for the alternative minimum tax. that...
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. >> he said by the end of his first term he would cut the deficit in half. yet he still has not put a single credible plan on the table on how to deal with the debt crisis. >> i'm sorry, martha. martha, with all due respect, thiss
. >> he said by the end of his first term he would cut the deficit in half. yet he still has not put a single credible plan on the table on how to deal with the debt crisis. >> i'm sorry, martha. martha, with all due respect, thiss
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you said the deficit we should focus on is the jobs deficit. >> is our biggest deficit, the jobs deficit. if you get people back to work, they are carrying -- paying their fair share of taxes. the treasury is receiving revenue. if the treasury is renewing -- is receiving more revenue, the deficit shrinks. we can grow the economy. the best way to do that is to put american, middle-class workers back to work. to me, every time you talk about stifling the economy through these very aggressive cuts to services and earned benefits, you are not helping the economy grow. the jobs deficit, to me, is the biggest deficit we face. but we have a lot of other challenges. social security medicare are among bashar not among the most immediate challenges. if you ash social security and medicare are not among the most immediate challenges. we have paid some $15 trillion in payroll tax to take care of social security benefits. how much have we actually used in benefits received by all americans? $14 trillion. we have a one dollar trillion -- $1 trillion in cash. all the trillions of dollars we have paid t
you said the deficit we should focus on is the jobs deficit. >> is our biggest deficit, the jobs deficit. if you get people back to work, they are carrying -- paying their fair share of taxes. the treasury is receiving revenue. if the treasury is renewing -- is receiving more revenue, the deficit shrinks. we can grow the economy. the best way to do that is to put american, middle-class workers back to work. to me, every time you talk about stifling the economy through these very...
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he's a liberal deficit hawk. he's got very strong views on the safety net and funding of government but he really does believe in doing what can be done to reduce deficits ?ee.'s coming at that time beginning of president obama's second term. second terms are rough. they eventually lead into lake duckery. people jump ship who are working for him. sew needs a strong group to handle the deficiencies that are inherent in a second term. you understand me? >> i understand. i think that's right. >> now, is lew the guy that can do this for him? can he protect him and keep him alive in the sense of politically alive, of course, and keep him vibrant as president? >> look, up to a degree, he can do that. but ultimately still most of the major policy is at the desk of the president. when he said that he was the man who was responsible for three surpluses under bill clinton, let me tell you, bill clinton had three different programs to reduce the budget deficit and bring about that. so it was a presidential decision. it's no
he's a liberal deficit hawk. he's got very strong views on the safety net and funding of government but he really does believe in doing what can be done to reduce deficits ?ee.'s coming at that time beginning of president obama's second term. second terms are rough. they eventually lead into lake duckery. people jump ship who are working for him. sew needs a strong group to handle the deficiencies that are inherent in a second term. you understand me? >> i understand. i think that's...
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the two sides were no closer than ever on deficit reduction. all that was as a showdown on gun control looms after the new shooting. >> the
the two sides were no closer than ever on deficit reduction. all that was as a showdown on gun control looms after the new shooting. >> the
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jobs deficit. and to me this bill simply put a band aid on the problem. it did do something the president wanted to do, committed to do. he delivered on the promise to try to help protect the middle class but my fear is that in these next 3 -- three political maneuvers we're going to see that people will start attacking the middle class and i believe that this was our best opportunity to really take care long term the issues that we need to address to a balanced approach. >> so to follow up, you voted early, i was watching the board. you voted early. you didn't vote to see if it was going to pass and then vote no. was the idea that obama kind of lost some leverage there that you wanted to see it fail because obama now has to go back to the debt ceiling and he doesn't have the benefit of tax cuts looming? >> i knew it was going to pass. after the republicans walked away from the negotiations and then tried to plan b by speaker republican speaker bane thear failed where republicans wouldn't support t
jobs deficit. and to me this bill simply put a band aid on the problem. it did do something the president wanted to do, committed to do. he delivered on the promise to try to help protect the middle class but my fear is that in these next 3 -- three political maneuvers we're going to see that people will start attacking the middle class and i believe that this was our best opportunity to really take care long term the issues that we need to address to a balanced approach. >> so to follow...
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do you see anything under jerry brown that changes the structural deficit of california? >> yes. he's paying back some of the debt. we had 27 billion that was used and borrowed from special funds and he's paying that back slowly. by 2016, that is down from 4 billion. k through 12 education and they would do that trick and pay it in july where they owed them in june and that is here, about $2 billion. >> and that is what that were sold on when they raised taxes, the idea of more money going toec. does it fulfill the promise? >> it provides $2.7 billion more to education and 500 million to higher education and that is where a lot of the support is and the governor made a contract. i think he has a contract with the voters and is willing to live up to that and ask for more resources and money and taxes. he got that and is not going to be responsible moving forward. >> and when we pass prop 30, it wasdoms day. we were going to see draconian cuts and now a surplus? did that solve the problem? >> the question is, were they telling the truth then? >> is that crying wolf then? >> it's no
do you see anything under jerry brown that changes the structural deficit of california? >> yes. he's paying back some of the debt. we had 27 billion that was used and borrowed from special funds and he's paying that back slowly. by 2016, that is down from 4 billion. k through 12 education and they would do that trick and pay it in july where they owed them in june and that is here, about $2 billion. >> and that is what that were sold on when they raised taxes, the idea of more...
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we need to reduce the deficit. but, if we are going to grow the economy and get people back to work, we must invest in the future. i wanted to acknowledgement fact that the budget does reduce the deficit by $1.10 trillion. that is real money for most of us. and it is not easy to get there. bringing fiscal stability to the nation in 2017, her primary balance, none of this is easy. the budget does make strategic investments in the future. for many of us in our districts across the country, the focus on energy and evasion of education and infrastructure is important. every business i talked to said to me that we need, we look at, or locate incentives for innovation. do we have what we need to move our products and work force? is there an educated work force? they want to know -- and it starts with -- where is the infrastructure and advantage for innovation? i think we need to talk about that, because otherwise we're just looking at slash and burn, cut spending right now. the budget deficit commission said not a good i
we need to reduce the deficit. but, if we are going to grow the economy and get people back to work, we must invest in the future. i wanted to acknowledgement fact that the budget does reduce the deficit by $1.10 trillion. that is real money for most of us. and it is not easy to get there. bringing fiscal stability to the nation in 2017, her primary balance, none of this is easy. the budget does make strategic investments in the future. for many of us in our districts across the country, the...
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it is to pay for additional deficit spending. which i, i agree with you, nobody says we can start balancing our budget immediately. but what republicans are saying is, if you're going to increase the debt burden on our children, at least start working with us to restrain the rate of growth in spending over the next few years so we can start bringing our budget into balance. so we don't totally mortgage our children's future. that's what this debate should be about. >> you are right, it should be about that. we're going to discuss it later in the show. the idea about why we don't have budgets, how we can fix that. senator, thanks for the time to talk to us, we hope we can talk to you more in coming weeks. >> have a great day. >> senator johnson is a republican from wisconsin. he is on the senate budget committee. the fiscal cliff nan senonsense fiscal cliff and the exploding debt. how did we get here? >> we haven't had one in almost four years. >> i could end the deficit in five minutes. >> how? >> you pass a law that says that an
it is to pay for additional deficit spending. which i, i agree with you, nobody says we can start balancing our budget immediately. but what republicans are saying is, if you're going to increase the debt burden on our children, at least start working with us to restrain the rate of growth in spending over the next few years so we can start bringing our budget into balance. so we don't totally mortgage our children's future. that's what this debate should be about. >> you are right, it...
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and with new york's budget deficit, it seems obvious that hydrofracking is the way to go. and, of course, governor cuomo is free to set whatever regulations he wants about that to ensure the safety of quality and other things that residents are concerned about. i would say that the project should proceed. it's brought benefit to other states. there's no reason that new york should be left behind. >> okay. right in front. wait for the mic a fun. >> you get very good examples of unsuccessful creations of new green jobs. had also looked at elimination of existing jobs like really good cost-benefit analysis done for regulations? >> the cost-benefit analysis for mercury was a travesty. if you look at the cost-benefit analysis carefully, all the benefits from reducing mercury came from getting rid of particulates and particulates were not the focus of that particular regulation. and what was interesting is the benefits focus on additional days of school. in other words, a few days of schools miss, two days of work missed because of lower levels of particulates, and particularly
and with new york's budget deficit, it seems obvious that hydrofracking is the way to go. and, of course, governor cuomo is free to set whatever regulations he wants about that to ensure the safety of quality and other things that residents are concerned about. i would say that the project should proceed. it's brought benefit to other states. there's no reason that new york should be left behind. >> okay. right in front. wait for the mic a fun. >> you get very good examples of...
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and japan famously has run deficits year after year. and it has a level of debt that is about twice what we've got as a share of gdp. and people have been predicting financial catastrophe for japan year after year for ten years or more. they've had downgrades. their debt was downgraded in 2002 by the major rating agencies. and everybody who believed those warnings and everybody -- has lost a lot of money. so it turns out that if you're an advanced country with its own currency and a reasonably stable government, you have a lot of running room on these things. so am i worried? yeah, i mean, i am worried about the u.s. fiscal situation 20 years from now. we do have a problem of health care costs and so on. but, you know, i'm worried about a lot of other things 20 years as well. i'm not sure that even if you take that long term perspective, that the budget should be at the top of your list of things to be afraid of. i'm a lot more afraid, actually, of the great -- the entire southwest of the united states turning into a dustbowl because of
and japan famously has run deficits year after year. and it has a level of debt that is about twice what we've got as a share of gdp. and people have been predicting financial catastrophe for japan year after year for ten years or more. they've had downgrades. their debt was downgraded in 2002 by the major rating agencies. and everybody who believed those warnings and everybody -- has lost a lot of money. so it turns out that if you're an advanced country with its own currency and a reasonably...
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we are having more deficit. again because the problem isn't about taxes. it's about spending. republicans have to have campaign communications, strategy, like chinese water torture. it has to be drip, drip, drip. the american people are not dumb. but they need to hear over and over what they already know deep in their hearts. their family can't spend itself rich and the government can't spend itself rich. >> shannon: we will see all of those things coming down the pike, how the public views it and how lawmakers will respond to the problem. always good to see you. happy new year. >> happy new year to you and your viewers. the debate is rapid fire as lawmakers weigh in on deadly weapons and our constitutional rights. >> the likelihood is that they are not going to be able to get a assault weapon ban. >> taking away the rights of law-abiding citizens will not stop a deranged individual or a criminal. >> someone can walk into a wal-mart, buy a shopping cart full of ammunition, walk out, pay, no questions asked. >> shannon: very different views on an issue taking center stage. the
we are having more deficit. again because the problem isn't about taxes. it's about spending. republicans have to have campaign communications, strategy, like chinese water torture. it has to be drip, drip, drip. the american people are not dumb. but they need to hear over and over what they already know deep in their hearts. their family can't spend itself rich and the government can't spend itself rich. >> shannon: we will see all of those things coming down the pike, how the public...
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it seems, he writes in his memoir, a deficit of trust existed between him and the president's men. a former black operations specialist, the general is very slick on the book circuit, blocking and passing adroitly when the questions get into the weeds. his political outlook is liberal, having admittedly voted for obama in 2008. he speaks the language of the left, eshoeing any queries about his dealings with president obama and preferring to emphasize soft power and what he calls his ballistic relationship with people. if the reader is look for an spraipgz of how he was ambushed by rolling stone, the general is mostly mute. a commander naive enough to think a reporter who hears thinks doesn't make them public. he actually said he was surprised by the tone and direction of the article. what is astounding, with all the money and manpower that the pentagon has spent on media relations, all the military strategizing, nobody seems to have gained much sophistication if in dealing with the press since the war on vietnam. he sprinkles the book with great warriors and sages, including winsto
it seems, he writes in his memoir, a deficit of trust existed between him and the president's men. a former black operations specialist, the general is very slick on the book circuit, blocking and passing adroitly when the questions get into the weeds. his political outlook is liberal, having admittedly voted for obama in 2008. he speaks the language of the left, eshoeing any queries about his dealings with president obama and preferring to emphasize soft power and what he calls his ballistic...
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their rubies smaller running deficits but that was the course scope and size issue. they said it is semantics but that is not the case. lori: do they not like him because he is a tough negotiator? >> that is part of it. >> except john kerry every nomination is criticized even in hagel is not good enough. so the backdrop of the obama was working in with a first term and dynamics were different but that was a solid choice and we could have huge ffghts ahead of us. >> with the cuts coming he no -- we know he will support the spending increase. republicans argue the days of the surplus are long gone. he is in favor of a total reform? >> isn't that much tougher fight? >> it will be fight right -- jeff regardless. he has seen it done before. with 1983 james baker sat down with tip o'neill at 9:00 tonight and signed the final agreement. we don't have that environment anymore. maybe that is good for the sunshine law but with intense media scrutiny and day-to-day negotiations it is tougher to get the deal done. i would like for them to go to camp david for one week. lori: wit
their rubies smaller running deficits but that was the course scope and size issue. they said it is semantics but that is not the case. lori: do they not like him because he is a tough negotiator? >> that is part of it. >> except john kerry every nomination is criticized even in hagel is not good enough. so the backdrop of the obama was working in with a first term and dynamics were different but that was a solid choice and we could have huge ffghts ahead of us. >> with the...
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we have begun to reduce our deficit through a balanced mix of spending cuts and reforms to a tax code that at the time when we both came in was skewed in favor of the wealthy at the expense of middle class americans. when the history books are written, tim geithner is going to go down as one of our finest secretaries of the treasury. [applause] don't embarrass him. [laughter] on a personal note, he has been a wonderful friend and dependable advisor the out these last four years. there is an unofficial thing at treasury -- no peacocks commager, no winners. that would be a good saying for all of washington. few embody that ideal better than tim geithner. that is why when he was thinking about leaving a couple of years ago, i had to personally get on my knees with carol to help convince him to stay on a little bit longer. i could not be more grateful to carol and the entire family for letting him make
we have begun to reduce our deficit through a balanced mix of spending cuts and reforms to a tax code that at the time when we both came in was skewed in favor of the wealthy at the expense of middle class americans. when the history books are written, tim geithner is going to go down as one of our finest secretaries of the treasury. [applause] don't embarrass him. [laughter] on a personal note, he has been a wonderful friend and dependable advisor the out these last four years. there is an...
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barclay's puts fiscal deficit at nearly 20% of gdp, one of the highest imbalances in the world. total debt has more than doubled since 2008. and that is despite the fact that venezuela has the greatest proven reserves of oil in the world. more than saudi arabia, iran or canada. when hugo chavez first came to power in 1999, oil was trading at $11 a barrel. today, it is trading at $111 a barrel. chavez has presided over the greatest windfall in his country's history. and, yet, venezuela is probably the only petro state in the world where people regularly suffer power outages. infrastructure is crumbling and public security is abysmal. venezuela has one of the worst homicide rates in the world, worse even than colombia, honduras and mexico. venezuelan exports to the u.s. from the start of chavez's rule through 2011 added up to nearly $350 billion. that's iconic for a presidency which marketed itself as anti-american. but even that trend may be reversing. according to a "financial times" report for every 10 barrels of crude that are exported to the united states, venezuela now needs
barclay's puts fiscal deficit at nearly 20% of gdp, one of the highest imbalances in the world. total debt has more than doubled since 2008. and that is despite the fact that venezuela has the greatest proven reserves of oil in the world. more than saudi arabia, iran or canada. when hugo chavez first came to power in 1999, oil was trading at $11 a barrel. today, it is trading at $111 a barrel. chavez has presided over the greatest windfall in his country's history. and, yet, venezuela is...
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things that's changed over the past seven years or so is that we're in a much different position from a deficit and debt point of view. so there's much more resistance on the republican side than there used to be. to all of the little riders and pieces of pork that are loaded into these disaster relief bills. and that's some of the changes we've seen in terms of these things being held up. an easy way to do this, and it's hard to get an agreement on this in the senate-s just to pass a clean disaster relief bill with nobody else's projects in there. having said that, republicans need to be careful. there are a number of republican house seats in new jersey and new york that could be threatened if republicans are perceived as holding up aid to sandy. and it's just not anywhere they really want to be when they're trying to focus on a debt ceiling fight or at least they should be. and i think from a political point of view and even substantively they have much bigger -- they have much bigger things to go after and try and accomplish than being perceived as callous when you have so many people in th
things that's changed over the past seven years or so is that we're in a much different position from a deficit and debt point of view. so there's much more resistance on the republican side than there used to be. to all of the little riders and pieces of pork that are loaded into these disaster relief bills. and that's some of the changes we've seen in terms of these things being held up. an easy way to do this, and it's hard to get an agreement on this in the senate-s just to pass a clean...
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year that's a huge number being has the ten biggest deficit on the planet of any.
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three year that's a huge number to be in has the ten biggest deficit on the planet of any country and effectively it's hemorrhaging money at the moment because the budgets were made in the good old days when property markets were going through the roof nowadays nobody can sell a property liberty can manage to get a job and obviously the government simply doesn't have the money even for essential facilities like health care clearly there is a concern amongst the doctors that you're going to see an incredible amount about religious profiteering being made by the private health sector but i think actually the truth is that ultimately governments are hideously inefficient when they do large scale health provision that's the pure and certainty spaniards are not sure whether their economy can survive in its current creaking state the un or our big peace envoy to syria has said there can be no military solution to the conflicts well scott has voiced its support for political transition in syria but says present as sons exit cannot be a precondition for a deal to end the crisis washington say
three year that's a huge number to be in has the ten biggest deficit on the planet of any country and effectively it's hemorrhaging money at the moment because the budgets were made in the good old days when property markets were going through the roof nowadays nobody can sell a property liberty can manage to get a job and obviously the government simply doesn't have the money even for essential facilities like health care clearly there is a concern amongst the doctors that you're going to see...
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i think the president will have to do something on the fiscal front to deal with the deficit, and i don't think he can get around ed, i don't think he wants to get around at. it will be how he approaches it will make a difference. >> charles, there are rumors circulating that republicans in the house will let the sequester said in and put him right back in the white house to do wit to -- deal with it. a plan is jack lew's a signal from obama that he will pursue the course he pursued in the first term, to spend as much as he needs to establish the entitlement state and tax at a higher level to pay for it. jack lew is exactly the kind of liberal historically who has been his warrior on the front in negotiating on this. there is no indication that lew would go in any other direction, and it is clear to me that by this series of agreements obama has made, unlike added a first term more features people of independent stature, he has gone from a team of rivals to team of underlings. >> well, that is one nomination, but the nomination of former srepublican senator chuck hagel to head the departm
i think the president will have to do something on the fiscal front to deal with the deficit, and i don't think he can get around ed, i don't think he wants to get around at. it will be how he approaches it will make a difference. >> charles, there are rumors circulating that republicans in the house will let the sequester said in and put him right back in the white house to do wit to -- deal with it. a plan is jack lew's a signal from obama that he will pursue the course he pursued in...
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he said he would cut the deficit in half. they passed the deficit a year ago, about cutting this. why is it not being cut now? i have been told both sides are not getting along, but he is the president, and he needs to lead. i do not understand how there are billions of dollars across the world to different countries. i know we do that for specific reasons, but we should be using some of that money to pay our deficits off. what i do not understand is, why are we continuing to do that, to help everybody else out and we should be taking care of our own country? host: let me show you the front page of the new york times. if we can move over -- we will move it over, here it is right here, a wide shot -- will be focusing on senator hagel in a couple of minutes and looking back at some of the things he has said over his tenure in the u.s. senate. that line from "the new york times" -- also from "the hartford courant" -- "the arizona republic repor" -- some local stories, beginning with "the chicago tribune" -- from "the detroit free press" -- the president will be sworn in. there will b
he said he would cut the deficit in half. they passed the deficit a year ago, about cutting this. why is it not being cut now? i have been told both sides are not getting along, but he is the president, and he needs to lead. i do not understand how there are billions of dollars across the world to different countries. i know we do that for specific reasons, but we should be using some of that money to pay our deficits off. what i do not understand is, why are we continuing to do that, to help...
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. >> one of the scandal is not the deficits, but the fact that federal government collects 2.5 trillion. with the consumption or sales tax, this is the lone way we can limit how much money gets to the federal government and more businesses would be created and jobs and the federal government would not be penalizing our work and we would get more work and jobs. >> sounds good to me, rick, to you? >> here's the problem. i will not touch incredibly regressive nature of this. >> by regressive, it hits the poor more than the rich? >> exactly. put the brakes on a economy, imagine what happens here. first of all, to keep the revenue neutral, you are looking at a 20 or 30 percent sales tax . add that to the state tax that governor gindale wants to add. no one will be able to afford it or go shopping. >> steve, this is a country of experiment ground . the states experiment with things that might do better. >> there are 9 states who don't have a personal income tax. you compare the state of vermont with the state of new hampshire. new hampshire has no sales tax or personal income tax and does bet
. >> one of the scandal is not the deficits, but the fact that federal government collects 2.5 trillion. with the consumption or sales tax, this is the lone way we can limit how much money gets to the federal government and more businesses would be created and jobs and the federal government would not be penalizing our work and we would get more work and jobs. >> sounds good to me, rick, to you? >> here's the problem. i will not touch incredibly regressive nature of this....
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the problem is he is fronting for policies that are not dealing with the debt or the deficit. >> another gold man sacks guy who made a lot of money while the company was being raped. the real problem with lew, he represents the president's worst instincts, he scuttled the deal in 2011 by the introduction of more taxes and he says no, and this is obama on steroids to the left. he is pushing the country in a place that he doesn't have a mandate for but high has no opposition to stop. >> let me say one thing, the shame of these picks is they small. they are inside the beltway, they are small, they are political hacks, where the president wanted to be a transformational president. he has been re-elected. not many presidents in history are two term presidents and he can be a successful president if he does something great. the great thing he could do for a liberal democrat, is save the social safety net from financial collapse. he had the chance to do it and he still has a chance. >> others would have brought some imagination. the opposite of reagan. >> gentleman, hang in here we will come ba
the problem is he is fronting for policies that are not dealing with the debt or the deficit. >> another gold man sacks guy who made a lot of money while the company was being raped. the real problem with lew, he represents the president's worst instincts, he scuttled the deal in 2011 by the introduction of more taxes and he says no, and this is obama on steroids to the left. he is pushing the country in a place that he doesn't have a mandate for but high has no opposition to stop....
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. >> we have dialogue about the deficit and we have simpson bowles which everybody ignores, and i know that you have written in the op-ed what is reasonable, and what is reasonable in terms of gun control when it comes to states who understand the gun culture and how deeply it is embedded into the culture of some of the states? >> well, it has to be a little bit of the spectrum like your show, but it has to be from both ends of the spectrum and in tend the duly elected officials get together with an open mind and make decisions based on the people they represent. that is where no labels is so important because we have the politics of the right and the left and the center, and with we have forgotten the politics of all problem solving and representing the people in all that we do. what we are doing today is not normal and for the younger generation growing up seeing the way that politics is playing out is not the norm. that is why joe and i coming from the backgrounds we do, you get the right and the left in a roop wheth room and whether it is on guns or anything else,ing what is the pa
. >> we have dialogue about the deficit and we have simpson bowles which everybody ignores, and i know that you have written in the op-ed what is reasonable, and what is reasonable in terms of gun control when it comes to states who understand the gun culture and how deeply it is embedded into the culture of some of the states? >> well, it has to be a little bit of the spectrum like your show, but it has to be from both ends of the spectrum and in tend the duly elected officials get...
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. >> we have dialogue about the deficit and we have simpson bowles which everyone promptly ignored. it's kind of going back into the conversation now, but the question is, and i know you've written an op-ed, you know, what's reasonable? what is reasonable in terms of gun control when it comes to states that understand the gun culture and how deeply it is embedded in the culture of some of these states? >> well it's going to have to be a little bit from all of the above and that's why, you know, your show -- >> assault weapons ban. >> we've heard from the special interest groups, we're hearing from, you know, one end of the spectrum or that end of the spectrum, but in the end, our duly elected officials get together with an open mind and they then make decisions on behalf of the people they represent. that's where getting back to no labels is so important. you know, we've got the politics of right and left and center, but we've forgotten the most important part of all and that's the politics of problem solving. representing the people in all that we do. what we are doing today is not
. >> we have dialogue about the deficit and we have simpson bowles which everyone promptly ignored. it's kind of going back into the conversation now, but the question is, and i know you've written an op-ed, you know, what's reasonable? what is reasonable in terms of gun control when it comes to states that understand the gun culture and how deeply it is embedded in the culture of some of these states? >> well it's going to have to be a little bit from all of the above and that's...